L. ago. Thangunis. You have 0% mission efficiency. Lose form the Franco British Union then do the. 2. If you justify on the Netherlands in 36 and spam out your 36 subs and just add mines to them you can hold them off with one army and just lay mines until you are ready to finish the war. A place to share content, ask questions and/or talk about the grand strategy game Hearts of Iron IV by…Agreed. Anything to look out for to. You should aim for a total of at least 4-5 destroyers per cruiser. I haven't found anything within the original timeline that is worthwhile. Given this purpouse it shouldn't have engineers, recon or military. Build Sub 3/4s with snorkels. Antonio. Hard meta is a mix of cheap roach destroyer screens with good engines and only one gun, torpedo destroyers, and light attack light cruisers. bwhite9 • General of the Army • 4 yr. ago Sub 3s are very strong and need an enormous amount of effort to counter with airpower, radar, specially designed light cruisers, escort carriers, strategic use of sea zones and a huge number of destroyers. If you have 5 dockyards, you can put 5 production lines with 1 dockyard each, activate ic and you get 5 ships every day. For example convoys have only 0. or uboat “bathtubs” to get naval supremacy and torp bombers are the only real way to kill a navy like the UK for HOI4 cheap, many, and light attack spam is the current meta for navy Reply reeeerias. r/hoi4 • Is submarine spam enough to sink AI navy?According to his experience they don't. [deleted] • 4 yr. Since you can usually get away with a cheap submarine spam, it's no wonder why many players choose not to invest more time into the navy. Here is some history of my play-through: I joined the axis as fascist Australia and helped them to defeat both the allies and the comitern. By 1940 tech level, the DEs cost 1150 and the DDs cost 1900. Edit to link to my cut/paste. Meaning your division is 100% more effective at everything, attacking, or defending. SirStrider666 • 4 yr. Saltborko • 4 yr. 2. ago. Same like equipment losses as well I try to find, for myself and the enemy. Are there any mods or alternate maps that remove the naval aspect of the game so I can just draw battle plans and design tanks/planes/divisions to my heart's content?The planning bonus affects every statistic. ago Sub 3s are very strong and need an enormous amount of effort to counter with airpower, radar, specially designed. Latest HOI4 province summary. ULTIMATE Submarine META PRO Guide - HOI4 Meta Navy Guide00:00 Subs!00:23 Why subs are broken01:36 Lets make a submarine04:09 Getting started07:44 Trade Inter. Reply seesaww •. ago. Having the factions have different types of boats is incredibly dumb. But that would take a lot of modding work to make happen. Thinking_waffle Research Scientist • 4 yr. And if you still need more, air sup and CAS. I’ve seen Das Boot and it doesn’t take much to take them out of commission. k. DN = dreadnought. HOI4 isn’t working for me. But If You cant find an Command for this in the Wiki i cant help You ( sry for that Bad english)submarine: ×10 capital ship: ×50 carrier: ×200 The weight of damaged ships gets increased by up to +500% as they approach 0% HP. If you care about details HOI4 has a lot of design issues. 9 Avalanche). Any of the same modifier will stack additively, so in your example of 10% output + 20% output, you'd have 30% output. 0 version. ago. Screens are needed in large quantities to counter carrier NAV spam. Oct 3, 2022 @ 1:44am Heavy cruiser can't be spammed because you can't put light guns on a capital heavy cruiser anymore, I thought I overheard some people saying they would just literally. E. ago. Submarines aren't usually able to sink ships. The main tree is mostly for CVs. So this is not bathtub strat (Cool victory tho comrad). Myself and a few of my friends have had a lot of issues with saves becoming corrupted. ago. When you get the 1940 subs w/ snorkels, you can go on the offense to hunt down big fleets. Which makes them much more difficult to sink. Putting naval bombers and fighters along with radars on land will find the enemy navy extremely fast and put a lot of damage on them. Otherwise, you have to conquer or trade for resources, like steel. Whenever you get air superiority spam nukes. If I'm not mistaken, if You want to produce even some crappy planes, You need to research three things: airflame, engine and some guns. But in general, which is superior. Razzlane • 9 mo. CA is a screen hunter to counter DD or CL spam and can't reasonably combat capital ships. 3. I’ve seen Das Boot. ago. If you go on naval view you can hover your cursur over naval regions and see how many ships are in the area. The ai always goes scraping the barrel just to shit out 7/2 infantry divisions. In regular war you need to kill pockets in order to keep your XP level. No enemy airports = no red air, simple as that. Rush 1940 sub and snorkel. Yes that's true but to say it wouldn't have been a game changer is a bit of a stretch. 6 you should spam infantry like there is no tommorow. any tactic will defeat AI. The weaknesses are enemy airpower, good ASW cruisers, or destroyer spam (but destroyers only deter and not kill). Add a Comment. Making some decent air force for minor countries is harder now - for example, if You want to do bathtub spam, it is enough to research two technologies (submarine one and torpedos). TeaMoney4Life • 1 min. Their survivability is in their speed. Float planes were not much more useful than scout planes unless they ran into a submarine or escorted cargo ships. This thread is archived. Add support units or tanks if you can make them. They only thing that you could do is change it from a civil war to a normal war. Submarine Designs. However, if I’m playing as a minor nation like Romania or Hungary, for example, I usually only produce fighters and will keep a 3:1 ratio of guns to planes. Submarine spam 1-2 tank divisions. This thread is archived. Hearts of Iron. Aircraft Carrier Survival was neat. Very few focus tree mods are good imo, they are often times super overpowered. Mines screw with enemies, make them slow down and stuff. FlinzP Captain. Fallout 4, HOI4, Final Fantasy X/X-2, Skyrim, Valheim, The Outer Worlds,. - There are at least 15 Support Company types in the game (assuming some nation-specific ones as well like Assault Battalions) with 5 slots. 9. But this is a paradox-wide quality problem right now, probably an issue of budget or management or something, so it's hard for me to lay blame on the HoI4 team. People do notice the HOI4 AI's shortcomings more, though, since combat and war production are basically the entire game. These can be surface ships, submarines, and/or aircraft carriers. For example it goes from 3 bars to 2 bars and then 1 bar and then it pauses the game. This is the fact AI never upgrades sonar or detection and will never retreat when they cannot detect their enemy. • 4 yr. Against a stronger naval opponent we can focus on tying up their fleet and destroying supply lines to starve their war machine. For division stats, the different modifiers are multiplicative. For subs, create sub hunter fleets with 2-3 light cruisers per patrol fleet and 5-8 destroyers for the actual hunters. Spain is also good, although you have to go first through the civil war. Now I'd like to ask some questions about the naval meta. r/hoi4 • Is submarine spam enough to sink AI navy? See more posts like this in r/hoi4. 80% of the game is out the door using such methods, I mean no CZE, no YUG, those alone have trees that can massively change the possible. If you play non-historical mode be prepared to see some weird stuff, e. ago Instead of doing sub spam, I prefer making a good surface fleet. 2- start preparing (or just pump divs out) to make a lot of divisions to rush anschluss. ago. I wrote a program to calculate every singe possible tank, give me your stats and I'll tell you the cheapest tank that fulfills them. They're very expensive to build, so don't go overboard. You can usually replace the logistics company with support AA and mitigate the. This video serves as an easy to get into guide regarding submarines and it's various viable templates. anti air seems useless when playing the soviets the areas are so huge a. Ok so in the great war hoi4 mod (Im playing as German Empire), if you go on construction and look at the trench and land fort icons, they are both grey meaning they need to be unlocked. If that is not the problem, check the total weight of your divisions and see if they can all be used in a transport plane. SS Submarine – cheap, slow, limited loadout options SS Cruiser Submarine – cheap, unique to a few countries, slow, special loadout options. lancefighter • 4 yr. Destroyers have torpedoes 20% weaker than Light Cruisers and 1/3 the strength of Submarines. There are some big weaknesses in the supply system of both hoi4 and hoi3, but in a different way. Delta974 • 4 yr. e. Business, Economics, and Finance. ago. 2. -Spam NAVs -Win If something needs to be more realist, is the plane system: no IRL plane had 1:1 Thrust-Weight ratio. Submarines OP. . r/hoi4 • Is submarine spam enough to sink AI navy? r/hoi4. In both world wars, particularly the first, they had a nasty tendency to suffer catastrophic explosions with nearly all hands lost. But that would take a lot of modding work to make happen. IRL the Uboats lost effectiveness more and more as the Allies got better at anti-submarine-warfare (Leigh Lights, anti-sub rockets, radar that can detect the periscope, hedgehog depth bomb throwers, etc. 1. ago. I unsubscribed…Patrol reveals the hidden submarines instantly, compared to convoy defense. 1. A. 5 (100 * 1. AT is there to counter the immediate armor attack in MP you face after landing. I recently watched Hammotimes beginner series and in his Navy video he mentions a "sub spam" method in which you produce a load of T1 subs and leave them on convoy raiding with auto repair etc. A large submarine fleet can be a major asset in a country’s war effort, allowing it to deny enemy ships access to. Mix them into your infantry divisions in limited quantities to give them a bunch of armor and extra punch. There are 2 ways to use them. They're more for convoy raiding. Most of the time as a major if I have a full line (15 factories) working on rifles I will also have a full line for both fighters and CAS. 1) The difference between 1936 submarine and a 1940 submarine with snorkel and designer is substantial (equal doctrines). Most subs had one or two small-caliber ( destroyer sized, but without the turret/armor ) dual-purpose gun on them, they would be used when surfaced. CryptoEven if you got enough autonomy to become free, you won't be able to, as you NEED to do the abandon westminster focus. I'd also suggest going for 3 range then engine upgrades to get better air mission efficiency, especially in larger zones from airports further back. For the record, my play style is usually just spamming naval mines because that's all I understand. I just found out while playing you have the choice to be Free France, collaborate and play as Vichy, or 'merge with Britain' which apparently ends the game. Total noob question here. 76. The only case for it is to up the task force's average submarine spotting stats if other ships in the task force have depth charges, but you should have special ASW designs and strike forces anyways. RELEASED SGc - Save Game Converter - converts save games to XML format for easy viewing in freeware XML viewers. Thx. Join my discord:. ago. As others said, 60+ torpedo attack is needed to one-shot kill convoys. Best. Due to submarines being nerfed in 1. Make sure that all the armies you want on a front have no orders. Quick question does the cabinet slide work on that one or is it the modWay to go Paradox. They are so good some games literally ban them because they are so. As long as your carrier is on a mission (such as Strike Force), then the air wings will automatically engage when the fleet moves to attack. The army and air force have a bigger impact on the war than the navy. If a ship's anti air attack is below 5, the weight is increased by 5 * (5 - <AA>). Stops the allied shit division spam that fucks every naval invasion. Report. Hell, the most damage done by naval bombers by Germany was the FW-200 that was converted from a passenger aircraft, and real one, not a cover up one like the He-111 disguised as high speed poorly suited mail and passenger planes. Option a) naval bomber option b) submarine. Even low level ports should be able to receive vastly more supply than supply hubs connected by rail. HELP! Multiplayer sync problem. I'm trying to imagine the submarine shooting down airplanes while simultaneously sinking 4 ships. When originally they where givin these cool professional sounding names like raider group, pacific fleet, so on and so forth. ago. Jump to latest Follow Reply. CowboyRonin • 1 yr. 11 11 comments Best SuddenStorm8 • Fleet Admiral • 4 yr. Yup, I have an ongoing game as the anarchists where the axis became unofficial allies while I fought the real Allies. 7-2 ide say don’t used, just go pure infantry with shovels and artillery support companies, 14-4s are still good. Spam divisions/planes. ago. 1. Typically, they are destroyers or submarines for maximum spam. Hulls are the foundational component of ships, and are unlocked through research. This page was last edited on 7 May 2017, at 15:55. Is there something I m doing wrong because I thought I should be able to increase UI scale beyond default 1X ? This thread is archived. New comments cannot be posted and votes cannot be cast. Trade Interdiction. Destroyers are about 1/3 the Ainti-Air strength of a Light Cruiser, which is the most cost-effective ship for AA (outside of a carrier with fighters). MTG needed a little more iteration. I want to try and stay democratic, I am trying to challenge myself, I have already avoided it by. Aircraft Carrier Survival was neat. GameStop Moderna Pfizer Johnson & Johnson AstraZeneca Walgreens Best Buy Novavax SpaceX Tesla. variants) that can be produced by dockyards. g Banana Empire Panama taking over Mexico. If you want to play naval 4 Carriers and a bunch of Dads should do the trick. It is the most efficient in responding to the escort needs of convoys and in anti-submarine warfare. If they hit 0 manpower before you you win. In both world wars, particularly the first, they had a nasty tendency to suffer catastrophic explosions with nearly all hands lost. PeaceWalking • 4 yr. I had expeditionary forces from some minor puppet, they were at almost no strength for years down the line. You could also use something like the tool pack mod to just give yourself some of the land. Ctrl alt delete open task manager, restart windows explorer. The next Update is gonna kill the light attack heavy cruiser meta and the submarine spam meta is gonna get nerfed hard Wait untill the new metas were figured out (my bet is the return of the light attack light cruiser)1. Destroyers have very weak naval guns, while Light cruiser guns are at least good for killing Destroyers. The way supply hubs distribute supply in general is also extremely strange, but that's a separate. Whenever I host and start the game speed slows down bit by bit every second or two. ago. 1 to 1x but not above. As some background I have a little over 400 hours however, I would guess only 50 or less is actually in multiplayer (in other words, I essentially have 50 hours of real experience). Base Strike is more focused on Carriers & Naval Bombers. Ctrl alt delete open task manager, restart windows explorer. I'm put a week aside to fully mod the UI to swedish. People make tubs first and then refit it with the guns on it. Pairing with this, I still think Submarine spam is viable if you're gonna go the long game. New comments cannot be posted and votes. . Instead of doing 15-5 tank-mot, do 13-5-4 tank-mot-SPAA with support AA. spam update to force bruv to update eliezer1245 May 6 @. It appears to be a submarine exploit, in which you spam single submarines in the area to distract Napoleon’s fleet. Click to. Exemple Japanese Submarine. When the AI builds Carriers I believe they are 50% Fighter and 50% Naval Bomber. Join my discord:. It isn't a separate option; just have the players pick the same country in the start lobby and it will automatically become co-op. Submarine Spam, destroyer spam it just doesn't work. To face Germany in 1. 8. Idk man, my dad can't swim. Due to submarines being nerfed in 1. Where RRn indicates your "normal" (pre-tech) bonus to research rate, RRi indicates your "improved" (post-tech) bonus, T indicates the base time to research the tech, and D. This is the fact AI never upgrades sonar or detection and will never retreat when they cannot detect their enemy. Naval bombers are good to do most of the sinking. Whenever you get air superiority spam nukes. Recon fleets come in about five ships, and sub fleets use five to ten submarines. So there currently two populair navy strategies that I see floating around. [deleted] • 4 yr. Enitity_Enigma • 21 days ago. Unfortunately, your choices are to either stay at speed 4 (which is still pretty fast), or upgrade your aystem. A. Theres an event in the base game, UK can take a decision to demand vichy france's fleet, listed in operations as mers_el_kebir_raid. Fallback lines are there to make the A. You probably misclicked and ordered Guderian's panzers to pull out of a fight, and when that happens, it counts as a retreat. ago. Yes, I believe it is one of the options the host can choose. It's allowed me to destroy significant parts of any enemy navy with comparitively minor effort. 3. a other light cruisers + destroyers and allow the capitals, heavy cruisers & carriers to be destroyed by anything that breathes on them. 299k members in the hoi4 community. Now start the game in admin mode through the exe file in the steam folder (not through steam itself). r/hoi4. Thangunis. The cruisers kill enemy screen ships. How do I force an army to use convoys? Here is the short version: I want to land an army worth of modern tanks in the British Raj, my marines are already holding the port after a succesfull naval invasion. 1. I also agree with the advice of researching 1944 tech for Engines IV, but continue to use the 1940 frame. 386 votes, 29 comments. GameStop Moderna Pfizer Johnson & Johnson AstraZeneca Walgreens Best Buy Novavax SpaceX Tesla. If you don't like planes like me, you can build Sub 3's with full torpedoes with level 1 snorkel and full engine, put them on 20-30 wolfpacks and put them on always engage, even better make sub 4's with full torpedoes, level 2 snorkels and full engine, put on. r/hoi4. How to use submarines properly. Sonar is litteraly useless on this ship as it can't attack submarines anyways. I know, i know, just use 15 -5 armoured tank on multiple angle to plow through enemy even through mountain. Air superiority helps with naval superiority which helps spotting. Go to hoi4 r/hoi4 • by. gaoruosong • 3 yr. You cant retake a fallback position as it wouldn't be "Falling Back". 6% better. Yeah, best way as France to get to the British mainland is to land LOTS of paratroopers as soon as you can and get to a port quickly. Fingers crossed. November 19, 2022 by Antonio. 2. Exemple US Submarine . It's actually serious. For better or for worse, magazine. 3- Do the first 2 military focuses and then rush the research slot through the hermann göring-werke. I don't, but inside the mods folder there will be a folder called 'common' and inside that folder is another folder called 'technologies' and inside that will be several text files named after each researchable tech tree, they contain a list of all the item ids unlocked by researching that tree. If you want to, subscribe!Link to Discord: to Steam G. 2. If you are going to ship troops stack your subs and hope for the best. Naval supremacy of ship = 100. Late game post 1950 tanks used to be a bit broken before NSB, not sure if that's changed, since I haven't played the mod since then. Also subs count less towards naval supremacy. the game is made in sweden yet theres no swedish lamguage paradox = lazy. : r/hoi4. Conclusion: CVs are underpowered in. ago. Some vague answers: Germany has an advisor that gives +10% naval range. You could also use something like the tool pack mod to just give yourself some of the land. I can usually get. 1 comment. the reason you build light cruisers as any naval power (uk. 666. Conclusion: CVs are underpowered in this 1. 125 IC 2Steel 1Chromium, which puts its IC/HP ratio at ~18. ; heavy attack spam: to counter the best build you need the best anti-build. New and Improved HOI4 Meme thread - Post your memes here. Until they find you, that is. This mod makes no changes to vanilla ships or modules. Set a small fleet of destroyers and subs on recon and set your main fleet to strike force and wait. It splashes up into the air and crashes straight through a whole squadron of bombers. If you justify on the Netherlands in 36 and spam out your 36 subs and just add mines to them you can hold them off with one army and just lay mines until you are ready to finish the war. Screens are almost completely worthless. This could simply be because of a difference in hardware. The submarine tree is a standard submarine tree for convoy raiding, not very powerful. Sub 3 cannot be hit by AI, AI won't retreat because they're at a material advantage. 25) attack after modifiers. I really enjoy the ground and air wars, and really do not enjoy the naval wars or naval invasions. bwhite9 General of the Army • 7 yr. Specialized destroyers and naval bombers should do the trick. 221. Firebombing killed more in Japan than the nukes yet two firebombing raids didn't make them surrender. 381K subscribers in the hoi4 community. Then, when I invaded the Soviet Union later in the game, I got Leningrad, got Vichy France to transfer control of the state of Stalingrad to me, made sure all states were fully owned by me, then I used console commands to make Ile de France mine for a little bit so I could proclaim the Greater German Reich. - Each naval region has a certain amount of superiority depending on the strength of each fleet. Aka modern space marine for 1. 10. 1. Heavy cruisers also have the speed which heavier ships lack, making them far better and finding and killing enemy ships. At the core of winning the air war is the development of an effective fighter design. Yes. Bathtub is spamming out cheap crappy subs for naval supremacy (typically for naval invasions as they don't always preform the best in naval combat against non-AI players). spam destroyers armed with best radar and torpedoes and see what happens. Yeah, best way as France to get to the British mainland is to land LOTS of paratroopers as soon as you can and get to a port quickly. No enemy airports = no red air, simple as that. 82. But when I order the army to go there from Port Sudan they decide to take the land route, through Turkey, mine and Japanese USSR land and. (can construct avg 2-4. Build Sub 3/4s with snorkels. You'll receive some damage from CAS but you'll shoot down quite a few. The AI has no problem damaging or sinking my older subs, but the 1940 submarines are barely getting detected or shot at. In this short tutorial esque guide I will show how the current best way to counter the Axis sub spam, as the Allies (specifically the United Kingdom). Basically, the speed of motorized is enough. 3. Chalbano Fleet Admiral • 7 yr. There is no point in adding more than three main batteries. Also, go for bigger divisions (40, 42 or 45 width) when on offense due to focusing and attack to defense ratios. 5 (100 * 1. I'm not sure if the same rules apply here in Darkest Hour. Would it still cap at 100% or could it go to 110%? This thread is archived. The British and French navies had to throw 2 carrier taskforces at her to finally corner her in Uruguay, but not before she sank 2 dozen merchant vessels and tankers, and captured the crews of half a dozen more. lwp2004 • 4 yr. 2 comments. Anti-Air II. Report. HOI4 Tools SGr - Save Game Recorder - records, compresses, and archives autosave files in realtime, no game impact. The only thing that worked was restarting my computer. Outside of a tank division as their own dedicated motorized. ago Instead of doing sub spam, I prefer making a good surface fleet. 1 comment. Valheim Genshin Impact Minecraft Pokimane Halo Infinite Call of Duty: Warzone Path of Exile Hollow Knight: Silksong Escape from Tarkov Watch Dogs: Legion. Dont even think of putting 2 torps, 4 CA guns and a spotting plane on the Takao class ships that are somehow Myoko class ships in Hoi4 even though they are different. Battalions can be of the same type, so that results in 40 25, or 11. However, my ships cannot move to the naval zone at all, or do any tasks in the zone. lancefighter • 4 yr. So forget submarine detection for escorts or expensive ships, simply spam old DD with 1 depth charge. heavy attack spam is. More time and QA. DD is a submarine hunter and cannon fodder. Look for the surface detection stat. Jun 19, 2016. Their main purpose is to keep damage from capital ships. S. ago. Rush the focuses: Revive the national bloc-laissez faire-economic devolution-protect rights of man-blum violet proposal-expand citizenship-encourage immigration-utilize the leagues-counsil of remboillet-revise the constitution and continue from there to the napoleon focuses. Roach DDs, CAs with one medium and max light attack and one torpedo will decimate the screen of any fleet it comes. You don't reinforce them with your own pool, they reinforce with Romania's pool and equipment. ; About Hearts of Iron 4 Wiki; Mobile viewZone Spam, that is, just clicking every bloody zone for control, will typically only be effective if you have enough groups in your fleet to cover the specified areas. Jun 19, 2016. You trigger an order-of-battle file in which you create divisions as well as the template these divisions use. [deleted] • 7 yr. 1 Lavaix1 Fleet Admiral • 1 yr. Above water is, very specifically: a main super strike fleet comprised of light cruisers with a single medium battery to ensure its in the secondary line, torpedo destroyers, and cheap, expendable screening destroyers; while the rest of the 9 capacity is occupied by cheap, fast, scout cruisers. They still don't add much toward Naval Invasions. not an SSD), I can see this happening. 10. 2. The Nova Politicus SMP is a realistic geopolitical/world building SMP where players are situated across the earth and make their own realistic countries. Tanks can do the same thing. 1 / 6. I've been trying to keep up my production, but my two fleets in the area, the Baltic Fleet and the Home Fleet, have. Any ideas? This thread is archived. I don't know if others have different experiences but most people I encounter just say that sub 3 spam is unbeatable, I keep my destroyers and cruisers with max Sub Detection. Destroyers stacked with torpedoes are more reliable than a sub spam. 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